House of Montague

None of the authors above cite their sources for the statements they have made. It's as if they are feeding from one another's work. What follows are a compilation of all the documented facts available on the issue. Each fact standing alone is but a brick, but taken together with all the other bricks creates something of a brick wall, in that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts:

About 1664: The approximate birth date of Mary (dau. of Peter I) [citing HGPM 62, (8)].

Prior to 12 March 1666/7: Mary [Montague] was born before 12 March 1666/7 because on that date she "... was given a "heyfer" by her aunt Elizabeth Montague" [Adventurers of Purse and Person, pp 452-453 citing Lancaster Co. Deeds &c 4, 1666-82, p. 18.] Establishes Elizabeth Montague (dau. of Peter I and sister of Peter II) had niece named Mary and that Mary was one of the children of Peter II. See more at paragraph D below.

13 Dec 1677: Meindert Doodes will states ". . . son Doodes Minor's children were to have half of the Negroes and the other half to go to Peter Montague for the sole use of his wife [Mary Minor], and after her death to the sole use of her children." [Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 451 citing Middlesex Co. Wills 1675-1798, p. 6]. Establishes that Meindert Doodes had two living children-son Doodes and a daughter married to Peter Montague II referred to as "his wife". Note that both of Meinert Doodes children married children of Peter I-(i.e. Elizabeth Montague m. Minor Doodes Jr. and her brother Peter II m. Mary Minor Doodes). [Note: Meindert Doodes' children dropped "Doodes" and used "Minor" as their last name, thus Minor Doodes, Jr became Minor Minor, Jr.]

17 Nov 1678: The will of Mary Doodes states: "Mary Doodes will named her sons Doodes Meindert and Peter Montague and daughter Marie Montague's daughter Marye" (Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 451, citing Middlesex Co. Wills 1675-1798, p. 35). Establishes Mary Montague is daughter of Peter II.

24 Oct 1682: Mary Montague weds Thomas Paine, [John Otto Yurechko's, Christ Church Parish Register of Middlesex County Virginia, 1615-1812, p. 12; and Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 453 citing Lancaster Co. Deeds 1666-82, p. 18]. "Adventurers" shows this is Mary Montague, dau. of Peter II & Mary Minor. We also know "John Mountague, son of Peter and Mary, bapt 21 May 1682" [Christ Church Parish Register, p. 10]. These two dates place the Mountague family in Middlesex County, Christ Church Parish as late as 24 Oct 1682. It is almost certainly her first marriage, as she is listed as a Montague, and not "widdow" or "relic" as is the custom. Establishes that Mary's first husband was Thomas Paine or Payne.

17 Feb 1686/7: Christ Church Parish Register of Middlesex Co., 1615-1812 lists that in 1686/7 "17 Feb Mary Payne" was buried. This doesn't state if it is Mary, wife of Thomas; a child of Thomas & Mary; or a completely different person. [This is the last time the name of Mary (Montague) Payne is ever known to have been recorded on any documents.]

10 Feb 1688/9: Christ Church Parish Register of Middlesex Co., 1615-1812, "William Johnson of Norwich and Mary Bennett of West Chester were married 10 Feb 1688/9." [Could this be the Mary Johnson who m. Joseph Ball between 6 Feb 1707-25 Jun 1711? They had two children: Elizabeth & John.]

4 Feb 1693/4: "Indenture to Richard Hutchens of ye said Parish and county .... parcel of land and plantation where I now live situated in ye aforesaid Parish of South Farnham containing by examination one hundred seventy-seven acres, with all appurtances and houses building edifaces, structures, gardens, orchards, fences there unto belonging or appertaining to ye land." For this Richard paid 2000 pounds of sweet-scented tobacco. The deed was written on Feb 4 1694, and was recorded on Feb 11, 1694. On that same day, Richard gave Mr. Edward Adock a permit for free passage through his land to Thomas Payne's landing at the Rappahannock River. He also offered to help Mr. Payne's father-in-law to find timber. The document was signed by Richard with his mark R. (From Tidewater Virginia Families, no page listed). Once again, a mention of Thomas Payne having a father-in-law. Same problem as in para above.

Before 2 Dec 1695: Both Peter II and his wife Mary are dead by this date. This is known because Peter "Mountecough" and William "Mountecough" petitioned the Middlesex court "on behalf of themselves and their two sisters Elizabeth and Catherine" for a division of five Negro slaves "given by Mindret Dodes to the children of Peter Mountecough, deceased, after their mother's death." [Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 451 citing Middlesex Co. Order Bk. 3, 1694-1705, p. 78]. This is interesting in that there is no mention of Peter II siblings, Mary or John, suggesting they were both deceased by this time. It is also possible they did not pursue this because they were out of the area. In fact, John apparently did remove himself to Essex Co., where he lived out his life and died, unmarried in 1733 [Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 452, footnote 25, citing Essex County Will Bk. 5, pp. 204-05], or just not interested in obtaining their share (unlikely). This again establishing the likelihood that Mary was already deceased.

Before 15 Jan 1694/5: Estate of Thomas Payne needed for his debt of 1300 pounds. (Essex Co., VA. Deeds & Wills Book 9, pg 16). It appears that Thomas Payne is dead by this date. It appears that he left no will (probably died a young man). Also it is highly unlikely that he could be the unproved son Thomas, b. abt 1684, who would have been too young to leave an estate. However, if Thomas were now deceased, leaving Mary (Montague) Payne as his widow, she would theoretically be free to remarry.

June 1698: Richard Hutchens was a witness for Captain Edward Thomas, and was paid for his court attendance according to law. In 1698, Richard witnessed a deed for John Miller, and in 1700 he proved the will of John Ellett, who was the father-in-law of Thomas Payne. (From Tidewater Virginia Families, no page listed). Interesting in that Thomas Payne has now acquired a father-in-law. This could mean 1) Thomas has remarried a woman surnamed Ellett (Elliott); or 2) Thomas Payne's mother has married (2) John Ellett. Neither one has been proven because there is no mention of Thomas Payne's mother's name (in records that I've seen). Adds to the likelihood that Mary is deceased and her widowed husband has remarried. [Note: The term "father-in-law" was used when the relationship was what today would be called a stepfather.]

1703: Mary Johnson is witness to a gift deed from Col. Joseph Ball to his son-in-law Rawleigh Chinn.

After 6 Feb 1707: Mary Johnson marries Col. Joseph Ball. Married Well and Often--Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800:24, citing Parish Register of Christ Church Middlesex Co., 1997, p. 37.

1708: Mary Ball is born to Mary Johnson and Col. Joseph Ball. [Mary Montague would have been about 44 years old.]

25 June 1711: Col. Joseph Ball's will leaves to his beloved step daughter Elizabeth Johnson, 100 acres of land for her life.

Bef 12 Aug 1712: Richard Hues (Hewes, Hughes) marries Mary Johnson Ball. His will mentions his wife Mary & her children Elizabeth & John Johnson in his will. [Married Well and Often--Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800:190, citing Northumberland Co., VA, 12 Aug 1712-17 Feb 1713/4]

26 May 1715: Thomas Payne m. Catherine Lydford (Christ Church Parish Records, p. 60). Is this the son of Thomas & Mary (Montague) Payne, or a new person completely?

7 Feb 1720/1: In Thomas Montague's will he leaves, "Thomas Paine of Middlesex County, 150 acres out of the upper side of my land lying in Essex County." (Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 455 citing Essex Co. Deeds, Bonds. Letters of Attorney 17, 1721-24, pp. 359-60). This Thomas Montague would be the cousin of Mary (Montague) Payne. He doesn't state the relationship between himself & Thomas Paine, but one would assume that he is related somehow. This reestablishes the long-running relationship between Montague and Payne families.

1721: Mary (--?--) Johnson Ball Hewes dies at Cherry Point Farm, Northumberland Co., VA, as did her son John. [Robert K. Headley, Jr., Married Well and Often--Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800, p. 45, citing Northumberland Co. Record Book, 1718-1726:176; Northumberland Co. Wills, 1713-49:2; Johnson:176]. Mary Hewes in her will mentions her dau. Mary Ball (a minor), her dau. Elizabeth Bonham & her son John Johnson. [Married Well and Often--Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800, p. 190, citing Northumberland Co., VA, Order Book 1713-19:17; Record Book 1718-26:176; Johnson:176]

Documented Sources
	None of the authors above cite their sources for the statements they have made. It's as if they are feeding from one another's work. What follows are a compilation of all the documented facts available on the issue. Each fact standing alone is but a brick, but taken together with all the other bricks creates something of a brick wall, in that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts: About 1664: The approximate birth date of Mary (dau. of Peter I) [citing HGPM 62, (8)]. Prior to 12 March 1666/7: Mary [Montague] was born before 12 March 1666/7 because on that date she "... was given a "heyfer" by her aunt Elizabeth Montague" [Adventurers of Purse and Person, pp 452-453 citing Lancaster Co. Deeds &c 4, 1666-82, p. 18.] Establishes Elizabeth Montague (dau. of Peter I and sister of Peter II) had niece named Mary and that Mary was one of the children of Peter II. See more at paragraph D below. 13 Dec 1677: Meindert Doodes will states ". . . son Doodes Minor's children were to have half of the Negroes and the other half to go to Peter Montague for the sole use of his wife [Mary Minor], and after her death to the sole use of her children." [Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 451 citing Middlesex Co. Wills 1675-1798, p. 6]. Establishes that Meindert Doodes had two living children-son Doodes and a daughter married to Peter Montague II referred to as "his wife". Note that both of Meinert Doodes children married children of Peter I-(i.e. Elizabeth Montague m. Minor Doodes Jr. and her brother Peter II m. Mary Minor Doodes). [Note: Meindert Doodes' children dropped "Doodes" and used "Minor" as their last name, thus Minor Doodes, Jr became Minor Minor, Jr.] 17 Nov 1678: The will of Mary Doodes states: "Mary Doodes will named her sons Doodes Meindert and Peter Montague and daughter Marie Montague's daughter Marye" (Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 451, citing Middlesex Co. Wills 1675-1798, p. 35). Establishes Mary Montague is daughter of Peter II. 24 Oct 1682: Mary Montague weds Thomas Paine, [John Otto Yurechko's, Christ Church Parish Register of Middlesex County Virginia, 1615-1812, p. 12; and Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 453 citing Lancaster Co. Deeds 1666-82, p. 18]. "Adventurers" shows this is Mary Montague, dau. of Peter II & Mary Minor. We also know "John Mountague, son of Peter and Mary, bapt 21 May 1682" [Christ Church Parish Register, p. 10]. These two dates place the Mountague family in Middlesex County, Christ Church Parish as late as 24 Oct 1682. It is almost certainly her first marriage, as she is listed as a Montague, and not "widdow" or "relic" as is the custom. Establishes that Mary's first husband was Thomas Paine or Payne. 17 Feb 1686/7: Christ Church Parish Register of Middlesex Co., 1615-1812 lists that in 1686/7 "17 Feb Mary Payne" was buried. This doesn't state if it is Mary, wife of Thomas; a child of Thomas & Mary; or a completely different person. [This is the last time the name of Mary (Montague) Payne is ever known to have been recorded on any documents.] 10 Feb 1688/9: Christ Church Parish Register of Middlesex Co., 1615-1812, "William Johnson of Norwich and Mary Bennett of West Chester were married 10 Feb 1688/9." [Could this be the Mary Johnson who m. Joseph Ball between 6 Feb 1707-25 Jun 1711? They had two children: Elizabeth & John.] 4 Feb 1693/4: "Indenture to Richard Hutchens of ye said Parish and county .... parcel of land and plantation where I now live situated in ye aforesaid Parish of South Farnham containing by examination one hundred seventy-seven acres, with all appurtances and houses building edifaces, structures, gardens, orchards, fences there unto belonging or appertaining to ye land." For this Richard paid 2000 pounds of sweet-scented tobacco. The deed was written on Feb 4 1694, and was recorded on Feb 11, 1694. On that same day, Richard gave Mr. Edward Adock a permit for free passage through his land to Thomas Payne's landing at the Rappahannock River. He also offered to help Mr. Payne's father-in-law to find timber. The document was signed by Richard with his mark R. (From Tidewater Virginia Families, no page listed). Once again, a mention of Thomas Payne having a father-in-law. Same problem as in para above. Before 2 Dec 1695: Both Peter II and his wife Mary are dead by this date. This is known because Peter "Mountecough" and William "Mountecough" petitioned the Middlesex court "on behalf of themselves and their two sisters Elizabeth and Catherine" for a division of five Negro slaves "given by Mindret Dodes to the children of Peter Mountecough, deceased, after their mother's death." [Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 451 citing Middlesex Co. Order Bk. 3, 1694-1705, p. 78]. This is interesting in that there is no mention of Peter II siblings, Mary or John, suggesting they were both deceased by this time. It is also possible they did not pursue this because they were out of the area. In fact, John apparently did remove himself to Essex Co., where he lived out his life and died, unmarried in 1733 [Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 452, footnote 25, citing Essex County Will Bk. 5, pp. 204-05], or just not interested in obtaining their share (unlikely). This again establishing the likelihood that Mary was already deceased. Before 15 Jan 1694/5: Estate of Thomas Payne needed for his debt of 1300 pounds. (Essex Co., VA. Deeds & Wills Book 9, pg 16). It appears that Thomas Payne is dead by this date. It appears that he left no will (probably died a young man). Also it is highly unlikely that he could be the unproved son Thomas, b. abt 1684, who would have been too young to leave an estate. However, if Thomas were now deceased, leaving Mary (Montague) Payne as his widow, she would theoretically be free to remarry. June 1698: Richard Hutchens was a witness for Captain Edward Thomas, and was paid for his court attendance according to law. In 1698, Richard witnessed a deed for John Miller, and in 1700 he proved the will of John Ellett, who was the father-in-law of Thomas Payne. (From Tidewater Virginia Families, no page listed). Interesting in that Thomas Payne has now acquired a father-in-law. This could mean 1) Thomas has remarried a woman surnamed Ellett (Elliott); or 2) Thomas Payne's mother has married (2) John Ellett. Neither one has been proven because there is no mention of Thomas Payne's mother's name (in records that I've seen). Adds to the likelihood that Mary is deceased and her widowed husband has remarried. [Note: The term "father-in-law" was used when the relationship was what today would be called a stepfather.] 1703: Mary Johnson is witness to a gift deed from Col. Joseph Ball to his son-in-law Rawleigh Chinn. After 6 Feb 1707: Mary Johnson marries Col. Joseph Ball. Married Well and Often--Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800:24, citing Parish Register of Christ Church Middlesex Co., 1997, p. 37. 1708: Mary Ball is born to Mary Johnson and Col. Joseph Ball. [Mary Montague would have been about 44 years old.] 25 June 1711: Col. Joseph Ball's will leaves to his beloved step daughter Elizabeth Johnson, 100 acres of land for her life. Bef 12 Aug 1712: Richard Hues (Hewes, Hughes) marries Mary Johnson Ball. His will mentions his wife Mary & her children Elizabeth & John Johnson in his will. [Married Well and Often--Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800:190, citing Northumberland Co., VA, 12 Aug 1712-17 Feb 1713/4] 26 May 1715: Thomas Payne m. Catherine Lydford (Christ Church Parish Records, p. 60). Is this the son of Thomas & Mary (Montague) Payne, or a new person completely? 7 Feb 1720/1: In Thomas Montague's will he leaves, "Thomas Paine of Middlesex County, 150 acres out of the upper side of my land lying in Essex County." (Adventurers of Purse and Person, p. 455 citing Essex Co. Deeds, Bonds. Letters of Attorney 17, 1721-24, pp. 359-60). This Thomas Montague would be the cousin of Mary (Montague) Payne. He doesn't state the relationship between himself & Thomas Paine, but one would assume that he is related somehow. This reestablishes the long-running relationship between Montague and Payne families. 1721: Mary (--?--) Johnson Ball Hewes dies at Cherry Point Farm, Northumberland Co., VA, as did her son John. [Robert K. Headley, Jr., Married Well and Often--Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800, p. 45, citing Northumberland Co. Record Book, 1718-1726:176; Northumberland Co. Wills, 1713-49:2; Johnson:176]. Mary Hewes in her will mentions her dau. Mary Ball (a minor), her dau. Elizabeth Bonham & her son John Johnson. [Married Well and Often--Marriages of the Northern Neck of Virginia, 1649-1800, p. 190, citing Northumberland Co., VA, Order Book 1713-19:17; Record Book 1718-26:176; Johnson:176]